The Web’s Only RV-O-Meter

By THE CURRENCY NEWSHOUND - Just Hopin

The web’s only RV-O-Meter will gauge the progress of the revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar as news, information, and intel is made available.

As of September 1, 2011 the RV-O-Meter remains at a high-grade warning to “Prepare for Cash In”

The web’ s first and only RV-O-Meter increased slightly to a weighted confidence level of 99.1%; The highest recorded level ever on the RV-O-Meter to date.

RV-O-Meter Update

The RV-O-Meter is adjusted based on positive or negative significant events, achievements, and confidence levels.

The Latest on Iraqi Politics

Over the past few weeks Iraqi leaders have worked successfully in determining an element of cooperation which took place in a series of meetings to resolve issues related to the 9-month old Barzani Initiative (Erbil Agreement).

On July 9th and again on August 2nd President Talabani called to summit the Iraqi leaders Prime Minister Maliki and Iraqi List leader Allawi to discuss the terms of the Erbil Agreement as well as the future of the US Troops in Iraq.

The Erbil Agreement consisted of 15 items but most importantly of those items include the decision as to how the security ministers are to be selected as well as the implementation of the Council for Strategic Policy.

The Council for Strategic Policy was initially created by US and Iraqi mediators to appease Allawi and allow Maliki to assume the role as prime minister which would end a heavily contested political tie. However the terms of the Barzani Initiative/Erbil Agreement has since been pushed aside by Maliki and his party leaving Allawi and the Iraqi List fighting for fair representation and national partnership.

The last meeting on August 2nd appears to be the most successful of all summits with all parties giving the thumbs up to the original terms. Maliki and Allawi both agreed to form a joint committee to settle the two contested issues of the Erbil Agreement.

It would appear a third meeting of political leaders will be organized sometime after the Eid holiday or after September 5th. Both parties further appear to have candidates selected or somewhat selected for presentation to the Prime Minister. The NCSP is still under debate but moving forward.

 

Furthermore, the August 11th agenda included the long awaited introduction of the revised HCL (oil and gas bill). The parliamentary committee made the desired changes to the draft law and will be presented to parliament for vote sometime after the Eid holiday.

Both leading parties have submitted a list of candidates to Prime Minister Maliki to fill the security minister seats. The Iraqi List has been entitled to provide candidates for the Minister of Defense while the National Alliance is entitled to provide candidates to fill the Minister of Interior and National Security. It appears under the terms of the Talabani Summit of Maliki declines any candidate for a ministry seat he can appoint a candidate of his choice either by proxy until further agreement by the parties or via proxy permanently. Due to recent uprisings and security concerns Maliki did appoint a defense minister by proxy by only temporarily.

At the present time a rare witness of national partnership appears to be taking place in Iraqi politics…But then it could very will be initiated by the demands (sorry suggestion) by outside entities such as the US State Department, US Defense Department, White House, or perhaps the UN Security Council.

The Latest on Iraq-Kuwait

The Port of Mubarak located in Kuwait has been the point of much debate between Iraq and Kuwait for nearly three months. Iraq for several years has planned to construct a multi-dock shipping port located at the Port Faw however the plans are only on paper without much implementation or funding. Kuwait has moved fast and has begun development on a similar project at the Port of Mubarek which shares a canal with Iraq.

Iraqi citizens, economist, and leaders all assert the Kuwait development will deprive Iraq of planned revenue, violates maritime rights, and impedes the traffic flow in the narrow channel furthermore violates UN Resolution 833 which provides terms protecting both Iraq and Kuwait from border encroachments politically, militarily, or economically.

Kuwait has expressed the port to be within its boundaries and does not encroach or impede on Iraqi interests.

The port issue is hotly contested and Iraq has requested the assistance of the UN Security Council to aid by mediation however will send a committee to Kuwait Sunday August 14th to discuss the elements of the port development with Kuwaiti officials.

Representatives from both country’s express words of peace and alliance. Kuwait has suggested it wants to aid Iraq in its exit from UNSC sanctions however issues such as the port are at the forefront of all negotiations causing setbacks to other crucial items related to ending the Kuwait related issues of Chapter VII.

If the committee returns with unfavorable comments about the Kuwait port development it would be safe to assume the matter will be forwarded to UN officials for clarification or mediation. A full discussion regarding this matter is set for sometime after the Eid Holiday.

Latest on Chapter VII Issues

Regardless of what you are hearing, Chapter VII sanctions are not completely lifted from Iraq. Many speculated the sanctions would lift during the UNAMI adoptions meeting last month however the meeting was simply that..an “adoptions” meeting to enact the extension of UNAMI effort an additional 12 months.

The extension of UNAMI efforts will not delay or impede the lifting of Chapter VII sanctions whatsoever. The UNAMI adoptions report stated “the UN Security Council requested the Secretary-General to report back every four months on progress in fulfilling all the Mission’s responsibilities,expressing the intention to review its mandate in 12 months or earlier, as requested by the Government of Iraq“. This would suggest Iraq can call for the UN Security Council to review its efforts and standing with the UNSC at anytime during the 12-month extension. Keep in mind the UNAMI mission has been extended multiple times since its inception and if CH VII sanctions could not be lifted while under the extension…the sanctions lifted in December 2010 would have never occurred.

During the UNAMI briefing Ed Melkert made a personal statement that he believed Iraq should join the international community however the words expressed by the UN Sec General Ban Ki-moon as well as the UNSC was clear Iraq must meet the objectives in order to exit Chapter VII sanctions. Therefore Iraq remains under Chapter VII sanctions.

Iraq emerged from partial sanctions in December 2010 which the UNSC often called “trade sanctions”. It is highly probable these particular sanctions are significant enough to allow Iraq to move forward with the RV or strengthening of its currency. At this point it is only speculation - Nobody truly knows for sure.

On August 31st Islamic Supreme Council Leader Hakim asked all political parties to unite and find solutions to rid Iraq from Chapter VII sanctions.

The Latest on the Central Bank of Iraq

As you are aware several articles have been posted about the Iraqi Currency and the CBI’s plan to ‘restructure’ or ‘revamp’ the dinar.

The articles are confusing, possibly misleading, and the translation is not so good. Essentially, the CBI has stated it has completed its study on the “Dropping of the Zero’s” and has determined it to be essential to the country’s future monetary policy.

The latest articles suggest the CBI will “soon” issue new coins in its currency line up. No specific date was provided however some articles used the (translated) phrase ”restructure… beginning this week”. This phrase has many dinar speculators across the internet wondering if the CBI will be issuing smaller denoms sometime soon.

I can honestly say the articles are too conflicted collectively to provide a clear answer as to the time frame the new coins will be issued. However it is clear the CBI is moving fast to alter its monetary policy. The CBI’s intent is spreading over the Arab region as well as making news on major news services such as Reuters. A year ago if an article surfaced regarding the Iraqi Dinar it was a rare and most interesting find. Today while an article regarding the Iraqi Dinar remains interesting it has become more common to see these news stories surface sometimes 3 or 4 during a week.

What does this all mean? Personally I believe it demonstrates the initiative the CBI is taking to activate the new monetary system in Iraq.

An archive of “Dropping of the Zero’s” related articles can be found by following this LINK

On August 28th the Central Bank of Iraq advisor Saleh said the following “the trend is towards reducing the cash block to rein in inflation on the one hand and raise the value of the Iraqi dinar against foreign currencies from the other. In my opinion this statement from the CBI negates any reason of fear regarding the LOP theory or theories the dinar will not strengthen somehow in value.

Overall

The political climate, for the time being, seems somewhat calm..oddly calm reflecting a national partnership type attitude needed in order to complete the Prime Minister’s cabinet. But some discourse exists.

The economic climate in Iraq is busting at the seams with companies wanting to provide supply to a much needed demand for services and goods. Oil companies are bidding, drilling, and oil prices still remain at all time highs.

The winds of promise combined with a poor job supply and high rates of poverty creates increased inflation - a repressed Iraqi dinar is forcing inflation over 7% possibly even higher during the Ramadan holiday.

The CBI has heavy amounts of foreign currency reserves (#37 out of 95 countries). The vast amount of foreign currency investment is not reflective in the strength of the Iraq Dinar exchange rate - this can create higher rates of inflation as well.

I believe, in time, continued inflationary hikes will force the CBI to adjust monetary policies. This is usually conducted by adjusting prime lending rates, interest rates, etc. However in a country that is cash dominant interest rates have minimal bearing on the economy. This would leave the CBI with only minimal options to combat inflation… i.e: alter the exchange rate

As Iraq moves forward with political change, economic promise, and creation of relationships globally with trade agreements and investment guarantees the economy will begin to surge and if the CBI lags behind without altering its monetary policy its neglect will only impede the progress the country is making on a global scale

Whats left and its status….

Key elements which remain include (completion of all or part of this list could result in the RV):

  • DFI Exit Strategy - In process. Iraq,US,UN, and IMF are fortifying the exit strategy now preparing for June 30
  • Seating a complete government (Security Ministers) - This is being debated and will soon be brought to the Iraqi Parliament.
  • Strategic Council of Policy Law, Allawi elected chairman - This is now in parliament under debate
  • Vote on investment law - Articles would suggest this is on the next parliamentary session agenda
  • Vote on oil and gas law (HCL) - Articles would suggest this is on the next parliamentary session agenda
  • Changes in CBI Monetary Policy (presentation of laws, passage of law)
  • Kuwait/Iraq resolve outstanding issues - Issues regarding demarcation of the border, missing bodies, and return of antiquities appear to being near resolution. However the recent events involving the construction of Mubark Port in Kuwait has started some more talks regarding demarcation issues. Furthermore, Kuwait announced recently it is constructing a nuclear plant 30 km off the Iraq border which has created some controversy. This may require UNSC intervention if diplomatic negotiations between the two countries fail.
  • Release from UNSC Chapter VII - Articles suggest this will happen sometime in 2011 some as early as this summer…this is pending Iraq-Kuwait relations.
  • Becoming a full member of the WTO (ascension) - Iraq is currently in process of seeking full membership. This will likely occur post Chapter VII release.
  • Enact Custom Tarrif Law (IMF agreement): Recent articles would suggest the law has been passed but will not be enforced until 2012 LINK
  • The unknown factor: This simply means there could be an element(s) which exist that are unknown

Trends

RV-O-Meter Summary

Considering the overall conditions in Iraq the RV-O-Meter increased slightly to 99.1%.

Key factors such as seating of the entire Maliki cabinet, a complete release from Chapter VII sanctions, and certain laws and policy changes will reflect major strides in the RV progress as well upward movement in the RV-O-Meter. If a situation arises which is determined to be negative toward the progress of the RV this adverse reaction will affect the RV-O-Meter as well.

Conclusion

This has been a long hard road for many IQD investors. The ups and downs have been more nauseating than the fearful roller coaster ride you took as a kid. But like the carnival ride this shall too end.

I believe we are in the final chapters of this investment. Everything we have been looking for to occur has happened or in the process of happening.

There is truly not much to say other than find that small piece of patience still left in your body and lean on it just a little while longer. Keep your faith. This is happening.

A full RV update will be revised when a significant event occurs.

I would like to thank each person who follows Currency Newshound / IQD News via the blog, Twitter, and Facebook.

Thank you and soon we will all have a pocket full of blessings,

Just Hopin

Just Hopin

Like always I will caveat this by saying we are dealing with Iraq. Anything can happen that can cause delay as we have witnessed so many times before. While I do not foresee anything delaying this forward movement at this time I reserve the right to downgrade the RV-O-Meter as needed.

Rumors and Intel I can’t emphasize enough the facts and headlines alone are encouraging alone without the need of rumors!

As we grow closer and closer to actual events that lead us to the revaluation of the dinar rumors will begin to churn out on a daily basis. Unfortunately good news brings the investor a great deal of rumors and intel to discern.

Please use caution and refrain from jumping at every rumor that surfaces. The past has revealed 9 out of 10 times the statement typically is not true…so therefore use your best judgment.

Each rumor and bit of intel should be taken lightly until events begin to evolve that lend credence to the statement. No rumor or intel is better than the next unless the statement begins to show validity. I remind you to use your own logic and common sense when reading rumors and intel statements including those opinions expressed in the RV-O-Meter update.

I would also like to add that as rumors become more intense and often believable it should not make you dig deeper into your pocket and savings. Investing in currency is a wonderful plan however buying more dinar or any investment outside of your budget or beyond your means all in anticipation the rv to take place based on rumor/intel is not smart investing. Always use your best judgment and never put yourself or family in jeopardy.

The Currency Newshound and its feed on Facebookwill not spread or propagate rumors / intel statements. The Currency Newshound simply follows the news and facts. The Currency Newshound is an advertising/revenue free site and therefore the reader can feel assured any opinion offered is not influenced by ad or support revenue.

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Comments
  1. Good news today meeting in Iraq on RV was not enough time to finish will have another meeting soon . Looks like our Rv happen as early as June or July this is a wonderful thing is very good news still a lot to be done so lets don’t get our hopes up too soon

  2. It’s nice to see things come together looking good but no rv in may but soon

  3. A lot has happen for our good

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    This is good news for rv at cash in there will be a lot of places to cash in I’m going to buy wells Fargo stock tomarrow I thank it will be one of the biggest stocks in the us this year there still alot of bad being worked and for now the time peored has not changed good luck go rv

  4. D coke says:
    May 4, 2011 at 3:55 pm
    I agre after June not be for at this point will be some time in July but it could change a lot of proplems in the backing scetor and the 100 day plan will start more problems it’s not looking good

  5. groovgal says:

    As usual… very accurate indeed! :-) Merry CHRISTmas everyone!

  6. longboatkeyfl says:

    i can’t believe we’re finally here!!! Justhopin your awesome!!! i know theres no rumors here only facts !!! Like i said your totally awesome with your site!!! and information!!! Can’t wait to see this meter rise to 100%

  7. ALELUYA!!!! THANK YOU JUSTHOPIN FOR YOUR EXCELENT RV METER INFORMATION CENTER, ITS MY WEB HOME PAGE. THANK YOU JESUS, RV VERY VERY VERY SOON HELLO OASIS OF THE SEA AJUYIRRRRRR CAMELLIN,

  8. bostonangler says:

    Justhopin, a quicknote to say thanks for the update. This past week and the week to come are bringing to an end a moment in history. I am amazed that after spending seven years and untold billions of dollars to “liberate” Iraq, that here is not one word mentioned in the American media of any of the news coming out od Iraq. Thanks so much for being on the cutting edge of these historic times.

    B/A
    http://www.2012aworldevent.com

  9. bostonangler says:

    Justhopin’ I’ve found your site to be the most newsworthy on Dinar news. I appreciate you passing along just the news without all the speculation found on other sites…. Thanks and now, how about a RV-O-Meter update! It’s been quite the week….

    B/A
    http://www.2012aworldevent.com

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    • longboatkeyfl says:

      question? how long before meter goes back to nuetral, or will it just stay on alert prepare to cash in until it eventually does? thanks

      • Justhopin says:

        While the current situation appears to have no end, the political scenario is progressing, albeit very slow and frustrating. The technical aspect of the revaluation such as the release of Chapter VII appears all but signed and official. Considering these factors as well as many others we have watched over the years…we are as close as we have ever been to resolving the issue and witnessing the revaluation of the dinar. If i should see a major interference that should cause delay in the progress of government formation and/or the release of Iraq’s Chapter VII the RV-O-Meter without hesitation see adjustment and be reduced to the appropriate setting.

        In my opinion I see things unfolding everyday, painstakingly slow. But it is occurring and we should all still be watching and listening and be aware.

        Keep your faith high and frustration low!

    • longboatkeyfl says:

      i have to agree thi site is awesome, better and more pleasant!!! go rv!! and thank you currency newhound for your site!

  11. WhiteHighlander says:

    great news site….no pumping, no bickering. hope the bashers from other sites don’t find this one too soon!

  12. WhiteHighlander says:

    no pumping; no bickering….this site is awesome!

  13. go4it says:

    I love all the facts. Keep me updated to news & thank you so much for all the sharing you do!

  14. Judy says:

    Sure would love to hear “Groovgal’s ” thoughts on events this week. Pleeeease?

  15. bob says:

    So does the meter go to Cash in if the Government is formed?

  16. gayle says:

    Per Talabani today Looks like RV won’t be happening anytime soon with the hold up of Chapter 7 until the end of the year?

  17. Reisse says:

    Will Iraq ever get their goverment in order? This has been ongoing issue for the past 6 months. This is great information though!!!!!!!

  18. HOLLY says:

    great info. great site, keep up the good work. thank you

  19. Kristopher Keeney says:

    “Central Bank, expecting to see the Iraqi dinar rise against the dollar next year.”

    What is this saying about the possibility of a NEAR-term RV?

  20. Kristopher Keeney says:

    Lots of activity last few days, but no update on meter (9/20)…!?

    • mudbug says:

      My own opinion is that the end is very near!!! Monday is the deadline for the 5 days… Monday is the deadline for Prime Minister Candidate to be choosen. So we will see on monday that is tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!

  21. Judy says:

    I am sooo happy to find this site . I have a lot of respect for groovgal’s opinion and look forward to reading her comments.

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  23. seeker says:

    thank you GG, I enjoy your efforts an commentary

  24. Kristopher Keeney says:

    If a “NEW” currency is being printed, what happens to current existing currency? Will it be exchangeable for USD, or will exchange only be possible “old dinar to new dinar”?

    • Justhopin says:

      Groovgal’s response….
      History has shown a pattern of allowing investors or holders of a specific currency time to exchange for the newly printed currency within a specified time frame. It is my opinion, that while I don’t feel this will be an issue for us, that in the event that a newer IQD currency were printed that we will have time to exchange it.

  25. Kristopher Keeney says:

    What do you make of comments surfacing re “lop” considerations? Would you be including this method when you comment generally about RV? Is LOP more or less likely than $1-$3 RV?

    • Justhopin says:

      Groovgal’s reponse…..
      A LOP is more than likely going to consist of removing the 3 zero’s from pricing index’s rather than from the currency itself. While anything is possible, it is my opinion that our investment will not be affected. I still maintain that we are looking at an RV within the range of $2.80 - $3 +

  26. T0NY says:

    MAY GOD BLESS YOU

  27. ksboggs says:

    Thanks for the great info…

  28. tony says:

    just wanted to say thanks for the info on this site, love the RV meter. nice to have a place to go and get facts not all the bs from other forums. thanks again and keep the facts coming.

  29. lee says:

    this is very nice thanks

  30. Angela says:

    Do you have to be over 18 to purchase dinars?

  31. Bhupinder says:

    Great Work. Thanks.

  32. chicagopoet says:

    thank you guys for all the hard work that you do for us ,I would be lost without you.I work long hard hours and just dont have any time or energy left at the end of the day ,I appreciate all that you do

  33. Robert says:

    Groovegal and Justhopin, thanks for all that you do, in helping us understand how this investment is going to proceed. Your hard work and efforts are much appreciated

  34. John Nissen says:

    please add me

  35. Mudbug says:

    I just wanted to say thanks for providing us with all this information. I know it is alot of work finding all this information and keeping it updated. There always has to be a negative person in every group just because they don’t totally understand. Again, thanks for all the good intel on our investments. I have recommended your site and your information on a daily basis.

  36. CaptJohn says:

    Thanks for a very measured, concise summary of events affecting our dinar investment. Keep up the great work!

  37. john says:

    although i see you have gimmicks to lure your customers here and word of mouth advertisement on other sites like my own….i wish you good luck on your venture into the dinar information platform…..groovegal will be a big asset to you but keep her on her toes …she tends to get carried away with her facts …best of luck!!!

    • Justhopin says:

      I as well wish you all the luck in the world to John. But please be aware anyone who follows this site is not a customer, nor am I compensated anyway by currency traders, etc. This site is simply an extracurricular thing I do as part of keeping myself and my family aware of this investment.

      I like many of you have been a member of currency forums but I just didn’t have the time to spend every night listening to rumors, intel, and listening to people bicker amongst themselves much less dig for news everyday. So after a long time of tracking the dinar related news I thought it would be helpful to some if I provided this information I gathered.

      As far as the RV Meter…its simple, different and unique. And many people need simple in their lives and some who are not devout followers of forums or news appreciate something they can refer to and have an idea where things are today without having to browse for hours out of their day.

      I am not a Guru by any stretch but I am an investor like many of you are. I have followed the news intently and this site is simply an extension of the news I gather and share. This site will never share intel or rumors just news articles that pertains to currency investment. I feel the truth exists in print far more than in a rumor or intel. There are many good people out there trying to find answers to this crazy up and down investment but I feel in my heart this will come to fruition and be a mighty blessing to each of us.

      As far as Groovgal…she is one of few that I feel are most knowledgeable in the Dinar arena. I appreciate her input as I know many people do. I have added some of her comments which I feel enlighten some aspects of this investment. She speaks for herself.

      Thanks for stopping by,
      God Bless, and Good Luck.
      JustHopin

  38. James Brown says:

    Great update. Thanks.

  39. Budlight says:

    Thanks for the website and all you are doing and working to keep the website upbeat and clear of any riff-raff comments!

  40. Joyce says:

    Hi, Will you please sign me up for your site.

    Thank you

  41. Earl Johnson says:

    SUPER SITE!!! THANKS SO MUCH!!!!

  42. Ronnyho says:

    Appreciate your expertise.keep me updated.Tq

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    Keep up the good work Love your site

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  46. carats says:

    Keep me posted!!!

  47. TampaTom says:

    Great Job…

    Love Your Format and Love Your Meter.

    Go RV/RI

  48. edwicker says:

    Great site. Will continue to visit and enjoy.

    Thank you very much
    edwicker

  49. queenwhc says:

    Nice Website … Love your meter, updates and your whole site in fact. Thank you very much.

    Blessings!!

    queenwhc

  50. charlesbowie says:

    do I need Attorneys

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  52. Sherigo says:

    Hi Justhopin, I missed you!
    I have alway folllowed your post and then after all the graziness, on the sites you disapeared.
    so glad I have found you again. I understand all your post and trust your guidience. you are factual and not misleading.
    Thanks.

  53. tport says:

    Nice website. I really like the format. I wanted to make 1 comment regarding attorneys (all types). After a couple of discussions with some, I believe it is better to wait in contacting any attorney until you have “cashed-in” and have the money in an account. They don’t believe you will make that kind of return and will not take you seriously. Therefore, I believe it is much simplier to wait until you have your return. JMO

    • Justhopin says:

      Good point! People without understanding of this investment may not take you seriously. Only choose an attorney you know and trust prior to RV. Attorneys as well as CPA’s have scoffed at the possibilities of this RV. Nevertheless, please seek professional counsel and advice.

  54. Ursula says:

    Love your meter, your whole site in fact. Thank you very much.

  55. rt says:

    why do i needs a attorney

    • Justhopin says:

      You would need an attorney to create a trust which will protect your assets once you have your funds available. Also an attorney would be helpful in creating a will which is a necessity for your loved ones once you pass away. A Tax Attorney would like be able to do all of the above including filing taxes and provide advice.

  56. SPONGEBOB says:

    hOPEFULLY THE RV WILL HAPPEN SOON

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